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Allergic Conditions
Question #21882
185 days ago
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I am suffering from this from more than a year and I visited a pelvic doctor and nothing improved and she told me that I'm perfectly fine

Annpurna upadhyay

Patient Summary for Doctor Patient: Female, 40 years Duration: ~1 year Main Complaint Recurrent immediate-onset reactions after eating certain foods. Trigger Foods Identified Chaat foods (pani puri, dahi papdi, etc.) Old / standing chaach (buttermilk) Over-fermented or old dahi Old citrus fruits (green mausami turning orange) Fresh dahi and imli in sambhar are usually tolerated. Timing Symptoms begin within 3–4 minutes of eating Symptoms (in sequence) Strange shivering / sensations in ears Strong goosebumps Severe itching mainly in palms and soles Extreme abdominal pain (described as labour-like, unbearable) Profuse sweating Vomiting Pattern Not daily Only after specific foods No known breathing difficulty so far Episodes self-resolve but are extremely severe Concerns Immediate onset Multi-system involvement (skin, gut, autonomic symptoms) Increasing severity Possible histamine-mediated or allergic reaction

Age: 40
Chronic illnesses: No but in 2016 hernia operation
Extreme stomach pain ( comparative to labour pain)
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Hello

Your symptoms are NOT pelvic-related and are NOT normal.

This strongly suggests a food-triggered histamine reaction (histamine intolerance or non-IgE food allergy) and possibly mast cell activation, not a gynecological problem.

Why this fits: Symptoms start within minutes (3–4 min) Triggered by fermented / old foods (chaat, old dahi, chaach, citrus) Severe itching of palms/soles, sweating, vomiting, abdominal cramps Multi-system involvement (skin + gut + autonomic symptoms)

What to do next Consult an allergist / immunologist or physician, not pelvic doctor Avoid all fermented, leftover, sour foods Blood tests to discuss: Serum tryptase, total IgE, CBC

Doctor may trial H1 antihistamine (cetirizine/levocetirizine) ± H2 blocker before trigger exposure

You are not imagining this This pattern is medically significant and needs proper evaluation.

I trust this helps Thank you

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Hello Annpurna Thank you for describing your symptoms in detail. The pattern you’re describing—immediate onset (within minutes), severe itching, abdominal pain, sweating, vomiting, and multi-system involvement after eating certain foods—strongly suggests a food-induced allergic or histamine-mediated reaction. The fact that it happens only with specific, often old or fermented foods, and not with fresh versions, points toward a possible histamine intolerance or non-IgE-mediated food allergy.

What This Means - Histamine Intolerance: Some foods, especially those that are aged, fermented, or not fresh (like old dahi, chaach, or citrus), can have high histamine levels. If your body can’t break down histamine well, you may get these reactions. - Food Allergy: Less likely since you tolerate fresh versions, but not impossible. - Not Classic Anaphylaxis: Since you haven’t had breathing difficulty, but the reactions are still severe and involve multiple systems.

What You Should Do Next 1. Strict Avoidance: Avoid all trigger foods, especially old/fermented items, until you see a specialist. 2. Allergy Evaluation: See an allergist or immunologist for detailed testing (including possible histamine intolerance or mast cell activation). 3. Emergency Plan: Because your reactions are severe and seem to be getting worse, ask your doctor if you should carry an emergency medication (like an antihistamine or, in some cases, an epinephrine auto-injector). 4. Keep a Food Diary: Note exactly what you eat and your symptoms to help your doctor identify patterns.

Thank you and get well soon

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This pattern—immediate onset within minutes, severe itching (palms/soles), abdominal pain, sweating, vomiting, and food-specific triggers (especially fermented/aged foods)—is highly suggestive of a histamine-mediated reaction, such as histamine intolerance or a mast cell–related disorder, rather than simple gastritis or IBS. The increasing severity and multi-system involvement are important red flags, even without breathing difficulty so far. Please consult an allergist/immunologist urgently for evaluation (serum tryptase, IgE testing, possible mast cell work-up) and guidance on trigger avoidance and emergency management.

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Hello dear See as per clinical history it seems histamine related allergy Probably it is due to either diamine oxidase reduction or mast call activation. Pani Puri and curd seems to trigger them Iam suggesting some tests for confirmation Please share the result with either general physician medicine or pathologist for confirmation of exact diagnosis and best treatment. Please donot take any medication without consulting the concerned physician Serum tryptase Ige level Food based allergy test Diamine oxidase activity CBC Mast cell count Patch allergen test Esr Regards

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The symptoms described are most consistent with a histamine-mediated food reaction, such as histamine intolerance or a non-IgE–mediated food allergy, rather than simple food poisoning or acidity. The very rapid onset (within minutes) after eating, involvement of multiple systems (skin itching, gastrointestinal pain and vomiting, sweating, goosebumps, autonomic symptoms), and clear triggering by old, fermented, or improperly stored foods strongly support this.

Foods like old chaach, over-fermented dahi, chaat items, and aging citrus fruits are known to be high in histamine or histamine-releasing, which can provoke severe reactions in susceptible individuals. Fresh versions being tolerated further supports this mechanism.

Although there has been no breathing difficulty so far, the severity and progression of symptoms indicate a potential risk of more serious allergic-type reactions in the future. This condition is not psychological and should not be ignored.

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This pattern is highly concerning for an immediate histamine-mediated reaction such as food-triggered anaphylaxis spectrum, histamine intolerance, or mast cell activation, given the very rapid onset (3–4 minutes) and involvement of skin, gut, and autonomic symptoms. Even without breathing difficulty so far, the severity and progression mean future episodes could escalate unpredictably, so this should not be managed by diet alone. She should urgently consult an allergist/immunologist (primary) and a gastroenterologist, and until evaluated she should strictly avoid trigger foods and carry emergency medication as advised by a specialist.

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Based on the symptoms you’re describing, it seems like there may be an issue with food intolerances or allergic reactions, potentially related to certain compounds in the foods you mentioned, like histamines or other biogenic amines. The fact that you have immediate-onset symptoms, including gastrointestinal distress, skin reactions, and autonomic symptoms like sweating and shivering, suggests a complex reaction involving multiple body systems. Foods that are old, fermented, or perishable are known to contain higher levels of histamine, which could explain why you’re having these reactions with items like over-fermented dahi, old chaach, and citrus fruits that have aged. Interestingly, histamine intolerances or other non-IgE mediated food allergies often present with these sorts of symptom patterns without overt respiratory symptoms, which aligns with what you’re experiencing. One foundational step is to maintain a detailed food diary to document exactly what and when you eat, along with the corresponding symptoms. This can help discern patterns you might not have noticed. Also, consider consulting with an allergist or immunologist, who could conduct tests like a skin prick or specific IgE tests, though these can be limited in cases of non-IgE mediated responses. They might also suggest an oral food challenge performed under controlled conditions which is the gold standard for diagnosing food reactions. Depending on the specialist’s assessment, a low-histamine diet might be suggested as a trial to see if symptoms improve. Avoiding foods high in histamines—like aged cheeses, fermented items, canned foods, and smoked products—could potentially help. Meanwhile, antihistamines might provide symptomatic relief, but ensure to discuss with your healthcare provider before starting any new medication. If any of your episodes become accompanied by breathing issues or extreme reactions, it’s essential to seek immediate medical assistance, as this could indicate a more serious, potentially life-threatening situation such as anaphylaxis.

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Hello Annpurna, thank you for sharing your concern. You’re right to take it seriously. This pattern suggests Histamine-mediated food reaction. Even though you haven’t had breathing difficulty yet, this pattern can progress to: Drop in BP, Severe reactions, Anaphylactoid reactions. So this needs proactive management.

Get these blood tests done - CBC with peripheral smear, Serum tryptase, Vitamin B12, Vitamin D, Serum ferritin, Thyroid profile.

Avoid completely: Old / reheated food, Fermented foods, Standing curd, chaach, Chaat, pani puri, street food, Tamarind-heavy items, Citrus fruits when overripe. Eat: Freshly cooked food, Fresh curd only, Simple dal–rice, roti–sabzi, Fresh fruits (non-citrus initially).

Take Tab. Levocetirizne 5mg at night × 7 days.

Also consider getting a physical examination done by your nearest physician.

If you ever develop:Throat tightness, Dizziness / fainting, Breathing difficulty, Immediately visit your nearest hospital.

Feel Free to reach out again.

Regards, Dr. Nirav Jain MBBS, D.Fam.Medicine

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